Bah!
I really can’t believe that the press doesn’t have more important issues to broadcast and write about. Both NRK, and Aftenposten, most commonly perceived as Norway’s ‘most serious’ (although one may wonder) television channel/newspaper respectively, had the royal family’s visit to church amongst their headlines. I have begun to realise that — even in Norway, most commonly thought of as quite secular — religion has an (inappropriately and undeserved) unprecedented hold over the population at large, but to have this as one of three main headlines on the afternoon news is a bit much, especially when war rages in the rest of the world — wars that have their origins in the same reason the royal family went to that church: religion.
As has the general curriculum of the Norwegian School. Read this; it is appaling. That this has gone unnoticed and without protests and consequences is simply awful; part of that child indoctrination of religion, and the — completely unfounded and ridiculous — notion that you cannot have morals if you are not religious, in this particular instance Christian. If this is so, how are most religious people able to go pick and choose among the preachings of the Bible, if their morals are installed in them by that same book!? How, indeed, if not because they have got their morals from some secular source, such as evolution.
‘Christian morals’ indeed!



Your aversion for religion is harsh. Albeit Norway is a secular nation, but you cannot eradicate a 1000 year old christian heritage just like that. For many people this doesn’t have a religious significance, it merely has cultural, sentimental value.
Dude, be nice, people are just having fun.
Nice, indeed! I merely react to the fact that the press wastes time on this kind of events, when they could have been reporting on – say – the situation in Congo. A ten seconds report would have been OK, but not nestled between more important stuff.
As for my other rant, don’t you, too, feel slighted, knowing that you’re not Christian but that your morals are still in excellent shape?
Dude, be nice, I’m just having fun (and letting off some steam…) =)
did you seriously read that pamphlet she gave us? duude, you need to rest during the break!
it says that the education should be based on christian and humanistic values? what exact paragraph are you appalled by, i can’t be bothered to read it all?
i actually tolerate “den kristne formålsparagrafen” as it as the consequence of a deeply ingrained religion in the norwegian society. it’s a natural consequence, and i respect that. however, i do believe in many christian values and i see them as universal values, so most christian values fly well with me.
well, apart from the trinity thing.
p.s: I’m reading Jane Eyre for the oompth time. What have you been reading?
I’m reading A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man (James Joyce, as you no doubt know). I love Jane Eyre, though. Did you see the BBC adaptation of it? 2006, I think it was, with Toby Stephens and Ruth Wilson. I, personally, really liked that one.
I’m just ticked by the fact that they’re implying that Christianity is where you get good morals from, and that you can’t get them anywhere else. Stoning people for wearing more than one peace of cloth is morally acceptable? And if it’s not, since Christianity is where you get your morals from, how can you tell? Well, obviously because you get them from somewhere else, no?
Oh, and a very happy new year to you! =)
happy new year to you too!
it does say christian AND humanistic values?
Yes, but Christian morals…
Ah, nevermind…